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SG1: Talion
I liked it.
What I really liked about this episode was we got to see Teal'c go 100% into Jaffa revenge mode. There is something riveting about him when he has no brakes on. Powerful. Scary. Elemental. Whoa! He obviously hasn't been tamed by living with the Tau'ri, he just choses to conform to the Tau'ri standards when it pleases him to. I'm sorry but I did like him blowing up that one bad guy. That was impressive and surprising.
And I liked it when he grabbed Daniel's arm when he was demanding the truth of what had "transpired" while he was out. That was neither a threat or bullying; it was more a connection, a plea for an honest, no bullshit answer. I do love their relationship.
I did keep thinking how things would be different it Jack were still in the picture. He would never had allowed a 'stop at any cost' order to go out on Teal'c. It would be another "over my dead body" moment for him. And if he were still Col. Jack, there would have been no hand to hand fight with Teal'c; if Teal'c had to do something, he would have had his six. Having said that, I laughed and enjoyed it when T kicked Mitchell's butt. The whole disabling Daniel, Vala and Carter with a shock grenade I can see was convenient for the writer, but was totally unacceptable to me. Teal'c wouldn't do that, and besides, won't it leave them blind for a length of time that would be dangerous for them on that planet? "Yes, I will leave you all blind and helpless." NOT.
And the big fight scene at the end surprised me a few times. You expect certain things like Teal'c almost being finished off only to find something extra to fight with, which did happen, but to such an extreme it gave me pause. It kinda gave an extra inning to the fight. But honestly, once Teal'c has been skewered to the floor, that should have been the end of it. When he gets up, that is a real "My name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my mother, prepare to die" moment.
So I liked that this ep went back to the prototype Teal'c, the man that was First Prime. If this had been back in the first three seasons, it would have been a very different interaction with his team.
What I really liked about this episode was we got to see Teal'c go 100% into Jaffa revenge mode. There is something riveting about him when he has no brakes on. Powerful. Scary. Elemental. Whoa! He obviously hasn't been tamed by living with the Tau'ri, he just choses to conform to the Tau'ri standards when it pleases him to. I'm sorry but I did like him blowing up that one bad guy. That was impressive and surprising.
And I liked it when he grabbed Daniel's arm when he was demanding the truth of what had "transpired" while he was out. That was neither a threat or bullying; it was more a connection, a plea for an honest, no bullshit answer. I do love their relationship.
I did keep thinking how things would be different it Jack were still in the picture. He would never had allowed a 'stop at any cost' order to go out on Teal'c. It would be another "over my dead body" moment for him. And if he were still Col. Jack, there would have been no hand to hand fight with Teal'c; if Teal'c had to do something, he would have had his six. Having said that, I laughed and enjoyed it when T kicked Mitchell's butt. The whole disabling Daniel, Vala and Carter with a shock grenade I can see was convenient for the writer, but was totally unacceptable to me. Teal'c wouldn't do that, and besides, won't it leave them blind for a length of time that would be dangerous for them on that planet? "Yes, I will leave you all blind and helpless." NOT.
And the big fight scene at the end surprised me a few times. You expect certain things like Teal'c almost being finished off only to find something extra to fight with, which did happen, but to such an extreme it gave me pause. It kinda gave an extra inning to the fight. But honestly, once Teal'c has been skewered to the floor, that should have been the end of it. When he gets up, that is a real "My name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my mother, prepare to die" moment.
So I liked that this ep went back to the prototype Teal'c, the man that was First Prime. If this had been back in the first three seasons, it would have been a very different interaction with his team.
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2. I think that both Jack and Teal'c have figured out that if you want to focus Daniel's attention on you or what you are saying, you need to touch him. He's like a flower towards the sun. *g*
3. You're right. He would not have even given lip service to his orders once on the planet because he would not have given any credence to the bad guy's line of bull. He would have given Teal'c complete back up and made sure that Teal'c won and didn't nearly die doing it.
4. Yep, a zat would work.
5. I have to confess I read that on
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2. I figure that Daniel's parents were also very tactile people and when they died he was pretty much left without anyone to give him the hugs he craved until he met up with SG1.
3. Yeah, the rest of SG1 would have mopped up the Jaffa while Teal'c dealt wth Arcad.
This was definitely one of those episodes that showed the glaring differences between Jack's command style and Mitchell's. Of course, I actually do like the fact that they're willing to point out the differences (like the whole bit where he confesses to Landry that he's not in command of SG1). I also do like the fact that Mitchell tends to make mistakes that Jack wouldn't have. I don't think, from what they've shown of his past, that Mitchell has ever commanded as many people as Jack and that he's never worked with anyone outside of the USAF. Jack seems to be a lot more comfortable with all kinds of people whereas Mitchell seems to be a little out of his depth with people outside the USAF command structure. Jack was able to rein in his people, which Mitchell really can't do. He's gotten better, but he's going to need a lot more experience before he can consider himself anywhere near as good a leader as Jack.
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2. Interesting idea. What age do you think he was when his parents died. Fanon says about 8 doesn't it? I kinda thought he might have been 6 or so though I can't recall my reasoning now.
3. You are so totally right there.
4. Yes, I like that they made Mitchell different than Jack (thank god.) I doubt that Mitchell has any experience in leading a ground based, for all intents and purposes, commando unit and it shows. He doesn't really have any innate authority to lead SG-1 due to this inexperience. He's more of a road manager. *g* But, I like that he knew this. The part that really bugged me was when he went all Rambo in the second half of last season, and they actually showed the others being impatient and annoyed with him in a few eps, like the one where they were all in leather with the space corn. I suppose that could fall under characterization as Mitchell begins to feel more comfortable.
I think Mitchell could be an effective leader of another team, but yes, he needs more time before he's anywhere near Jack's abilities.
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2. Since neither the series nor the movie says exactly when Daniel was orphaned, though we know he was quite young, anywhere between about 5-9 works for me. There does seem to be a fanon thing about 8, but it's not clear in the show.
4. I think the Rambo stage was just reactionary to the fact that he felt like he wasn't in control. So, until such time as he managed to get over himself, he turned into Rambo. I think he finally just made peace with the fact that he was the new guy and that his best bet was just to be the road manager instead of the leader of the band.
Evil Orville Redenbacher...snerk!
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4. So, The Rambo thing was his 'teenage years?' *g*
"Evil Orville Redenbacher" is quite a tongue twister. I am impressed Browder managed it so easily! I bet he practiced.
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4. Yeah, definitely testosterone. Needed to get it out of his system.
Considering the stuff he used to spout on "Farscape", Evil Orville Redenbacher must have seemed pretty easy.
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